Notion product head Max Schoening discusses AI's software transformation on Lenny's Podcast

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• POSTLR#642@LENNYSAN"We already have universal basic income. It's called knowledge work." Max Schoening (@mschoening) is one of the deepest thinkers on how AI is changing how we build and use software. He's also what the future of product leadership looks like. He's head of product at @NotionHQ, was VP of Design (and a part-time engineer) at @GitHub, head of design at @Heroku, a PM at Google, and a 2x founder. In our in-depth conversation, we discuss: 🔸 What’s worked in getting designers and PMs to fully embrace AI 🔸 Why agency—not skills—is the thing that separates people who will thrive 🔸 Max’s “tiny core” theory of great products: iPhone multitouch, the GitHub pull request, Dropbox’s menu bar icon 🔸 How the first 10% of every project is now “free,” and what that means for product development 🔸 Why the amount of software has exploded but the quality hasn’t, and why that gap creates opportunity Listen now 👇 https://youtu.be/mCO-D3pkviM

  "We already have universal basic income. It's called knowledge work." Max Schoening (@mschoening) is one of the deepest thinkers on how AI is changing how we build and use software. He's also what the future of product leadership looks like. He's head of product at @NotionHQ, was VP of Design (and a part-time engineer) at @GitHub, head of design at @Heroku, a PM at Google, and a 2x founder. In our in-depth conversation, we discuss: 🔸 What’s worked in getting designers and PMs to fully embrace AI 🔸 Why agency—not skills—is the thing that separates people who will thrive 🔸 Max’s “tiny core” theory of great products: iPhone multitouch, the GitHub pull request, Dropbox’s menu bar icon 🔸 How the first 10% of every project is now “free,” and what that means for product development 🔸 Why the amount of software has exploded but the quality hasn’t, and why that gap creates opportunity Listen now 👇 https://youtu.be/mCO-D3pkviM

• REPOSTLR#642@LENNYSAN@ASALYERS3These days, it feels like there aren't many IYKYK tech leaders left, but @mschoening is one. TBH, one of the reasons I decided to join @NotionHQ last year was I met Max and immediately knew I wanted to learn from him. I was not wrong. Thank you, @lennysan, for bringing Max on so others can learn from him.

  These days, it feels like there aren't many IYKYK tech leaders left, but @mschoening is one. TBH, one of the reasons I decided to join @NotionHQ last year was I met Max and immediately knew I wanted to learn from him. I was not wrong. Thank you, @lennysan, for bringing Max on so others can learn from him.

• REPOSTLR#642@LENNYSAN@GIUDEGIOWhy cultivating agency matters more than cultivating skills in the AI era | Max Schoening (Head of Product, Notion) @mschoening by @lennysan https://open.substack.com/pub/lenny/p/why-cultivating-agency-matters-more?r=tf12u&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web

  Why cultivating agency matters more than cultivating skills in the AI era | Max Schoening (Head of Product, Notion) @mschoening by @lennysan https://open.substack.com/pub/lenny/p/why-cultivating-agency-matters-more?r=tf12u&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web

• REPOSTLR#642@LENNYSAN@SPICEP0DCASTIf you worked for a big tech company in the past 3 years, I. Spice you’d agree with this statement. https://x.com/SpiceP0dcast/status/2051312846835728731/video/1 https://twitter.com/lennysan/status/2051004840457990208

  If you worked for a big tech company in the past 3 years, I. Spice you’d agree with this statement. https://x.com/SpiceP0dcast/status/2051312846835728731/video/1 https://twitter.com/lennysan/status/2051004840457990208

• REPOSTLR#642@LENNYSAN@MSCHOENINGI don't know what possessed @lennysan to want to interview me. But, so he did. We talked about a lot of things that I think are fun: malleable software, taste, the core identity of products, and agency. Lenny is a very gracious interviewer. Thanks for having me. https://twitter.com/lennysan/status/2051004840457990208

  I don't know what possessed @lennysan to want to interview me. But, so he did. We talked about a lot of things that I think are fun: malleable software, taste, the core identity of products, and agency. Lenny is a very gracious interviewer. Thanks for having me. https://twitter.com/lennysan/status/2051004840457990208

• REPOSTLR#642@LENNYSAN@GOLDMANEMA dense, interesting listen Only nit after working with Max… He wasn’t built for a time like this, he definitely - and very intentionally - built himself for a time like this. He is patient zero for agency contagion at Notion https://twitter.com/lennysan/status/2051004840457990208

  A dense, interesting listen Only nit after working with Max… He wasn’t built for a time like this, he definitely - and very intentionally - built himself for a time like this. He is patient zero for agency contagion at Notion https://twitter.com/lennysan/status/2051004840457990208

• REPOSTIZ#766@IVANHZHAO@VARADHEveryone now gets to hear bits and pieces of what we hear more often! https://twitter.com/lennysan/status/2051004840457990208

  Everyone now gets to hear bits and pieces of what we hear more often! https://twitter.com/lennysan/status/2051004840457990208